If you like photography and music, listen to NPR's Dave Davies interview Bob Gruen about covering rock and roll in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. It's about 30 minutes long, and it's packed with insights and anecdotes from his experiences with The Beatles, Tina Turner, Bob Dylan, and more.

I wish I had a memory like Gruen's. He seems to remember every shot, every photo, every concert. He remembers how he got a shot and the ones that got away.

One of the best parts about the interview is that there is no mention of cameras, lenses, or settings. The words camera and lens do show up, but that's about the extent of it. The rest is story.